Female Business... (a man's viewpoint).

Tender talk about a touchy thing... 

(Age 18 to 58)

CAUTION: Read below only if you truly love women...

Do women really "go into heat" or get horny?

Can you feel the difference in temperature at the time?

A change in mood, smell, taste? 

(Not that a man could notice, unless he pays attention)!

Most important, one must understand the parts of a woman controlling this, and the parts a man can study and observe, before, during, and after sex... Namely the inside lips of her vagina and her nipples! (Most other areas are seldom understood by anyone but doctors or trained personal in this field). Any man, before becoming sexually active, should have some instruction in this area, unless he wants to cause a very unhappy sex life.

For most men, sex is quick and simple. He gets hard, he gets in, he gets off, he's done!   For women it is not that simple... look at the pictures to the right. (If your monitor setting in the control panel is set at 800 width you will need to scroll over or change it. Phones all work different... you may need a computer to follow correctly). And if pictures of the "open" woman causes arousal problems with you men, control yourself, although this is normal for the "less evolved" man, it is not the intent of this web page... We are actually trying to help girls teach men to do a better job of loving, respecting, and caring for this part of a woman.

In the first picture you see how a woman is constructed at birth... This picture changes as they get older, the space between the anus and her "opening" becomes shorter. (I am not sure about this... I think what my "experts" meant by this information is that from the outside it may look closer to the opening which becomes deeper and larger). Everyone agreed some outer lips grow at different rates and often the flower "blooms" after they become sexually active.

In the second picture you see a drawing, done by a woman, of what she thought a perfect one should look like when ready for sex... (Although actually this woman had help from a man while describing "a perfect one" as he wanted to see it, pink and pretty... shaved and virginal... very inviting... shame on him). I see much information like this done by many men, often going on at great length about the "little man in the boat" at the top, (the sensitive button under the top of the outer lips, the one hooked to the inter lips). Men think it is easy to see and find. For sure they go right or it because they know that it must be stimulated (to make the lips open up and become slippery).

Most men think once this is done, and the woman is "turned on," they can proceed with intercourse, and the woman will enjoy it as much as he does... Too bad it is not that simple, just turn on the switch and do it! Many women have been, (in effect), trained to promote this as well. But men should be more careful and take more time here (partly because the direct rubbing of this button is too intense and time would be well spent doing things correctly). To do it right a man must use the bottom of his tongue only. And as close as possible to this button he should trace the entire alphabet on it one letter at a time. Then start over with capital letters... this time inserting the tongue in all three openings each time the letter has a "captured hole" within it. (This may take a while) but it should pay off. SOME girls are more interested in just getting it on right away. But this is partly because they want to feel the other "turn on" feeling of being stretched out inside, but mostly because they just know that is what pleases the man! 

Most men do not care much about how a woman looks down there, unless it looks like the "pink and pretty" one of the fantasy world. They just want it to be tight and slippery, but open and responsive... A few minutes later they just want to sleep, but not on the wet spot!

The next picture is more like what it actually looks like, (with lines drawn from the slippery lips that indicate readiness). The picture below it is a drawing of what it would look like after intercourse was over. I remember the first time I saw an actual picture of this area, although it was in a French booklet carried back by someone in the Army, it was also larger and more open than these! (I paid a dollar to even see the booklet, and I argued with the owner that a normal woman really did not look like that... And after he explained that it did, he had been there and saw many up close, that was really how they looked... I thought at the time I was lucky to be going to Vietnam instead of France. I wanted no part in screwing such a vulgar/sloppy/wide-open woman... how stupid/ignorant/naive I was at this point in my life! 

This happened at Ft. Knox, Kentucky... and I was a few weeks from graduation of my first formal training in the Army, training in operation and repair of the "prick 77," (a backpack radio with a long "tape-measure" type antenna extending above). I had already been told this job shared the shortest life expectancy rating, along with the officer using it, at that time, in this war... If I remember right, we had a one in seventeen chance of surviving a complete tour of duty, (thirteen months). I was in a large group, training as replacements on the "fast track," during a bad time for America. We were all single, stupid, and full of "piss and vinegar," we were also all treated with much respect by even the highest of rank. There were about one hundred of us graduating soon... and all but sixteen of us would soon die! (Top ten percent would go on for more schooling, the other five or six should be among the lucky... of those other ninety men though, PFC Berrymore was the only one I know of to survive, he wrote a letter to my wife even, describing what he went through during this year. I still can't believe he survived, he was the tallest man in our unit, my most honest teacher said he would be among the first to die, of all of us, he would be too much of a target! It may have seemed cruel of me to do this, but I ask him to write her so I would have a record of what happened at the time. (She was only one of many girlfriends at the time, but one that kept letters, and one that I planned to keep in contact with in the future). This was a strange time in my life in fact, a time when honor and duty was very important to us... also a time when bravery and heroism was important to my family in the Midwest. I had always been just a "little shit," not much good on a farm or in anything involving manual labor. I had completed college on TV repair just when they switched from tubes to transistors, that training was also useless! All the girls I had sex with said I was a good lover, and not too heavy either... but I did not see much of a career in that! I had grown strong enough to pack this radio, it looked like I was finally going to get a chance to "make my mama proud" and it did not matter if it cost me my life, that was not as important! (I can understand the mind-set of others in the world, thinking this today. It may seem strange for someone to think this way... I guess you can say: "you just had to have been there" to understand it).

Speaking of making my mother proud, something that should still be important! This article would not make her proud of me for writing it, especially for showing pictures of women in such an open way. Although at the time of posting this both my wife and mother are still alive, my wife will not be for much longer, I will follow her shortly after... and my mother has never seen the Internet and probably never will. Some of the things here are important to be brought out in the "open"... Nobody else is going to take the time, or even seems to care. It is about time for some frank discussion on this delicate matter, and if it offends some women I am sorry... Too much has been placed on this "complete library in the sky" that degrades women and causes disillusion among men. Somebody must say what needs to be said, they must correct the thinking of many men, and educate them better!

I also do not understand why any older men should have sexual interest in girls much younger than he is at the time, although if he is rich, I understand why some young girls want such men.

(But that has more to do with the love of money, than the love of any man).

This is a shame, but maybe a shameful fact! (I fear we can do very little about it either). Some young men also are at times a "sexual companion" to older women. The money might be the only true reason as there is no logical reason for it (other than maybe the virility and "staying power" of such an individual).

And don't say you heard that man reaches his sexual peak at 18 and the woman at 30 something... or whatever! That is true maybe, but they are not talking about being compatible, they are talking about a top being reached. (In enjoyment, activity, or time spent doing it... doesn't matter, it is just a peak). Mostly that is the fault of man, not woman, and it has more to do with the boy reaching a point in his life when it is all he thinks about, and all he does, with or without a girl being present. Also a woman finally reaching a point in her life when possibly she wants and needs it more than she ever did before that.

Men do not automatically know how to treat women, and most women will just deal with it rather than make much noise about something they have very little control over. Women also do not want or need as much sex as men at any time in either of their lives. But smart ones know to just allow it, (and act excited), while they count to ten, then it is over! They also know not to use it, (or hold it back), to try to get things... they often wind up getting other things for doing it that way. When a woman does get "in the mood," she knows how to get her man in the mood without letting him know it was not his idea.

I don't think there are many classes on such things, there is no need, it is not hard to do, most men are born with it hard, some die that way too. Any woman that needs to beg for it should just screw him to death some night, then go out and find a better man.

Men have much more trouble in this department (begging for sex I mean... not getting in the mood)! This begging starts at about puberty, and does not end until they run out of Viagra!

It caused much tension, many jokes, and a million classes, that they refuse to attend... I heard a great deal of talk about this in College, mostly from men returning from Vietnam. I dealt with much more of it while in Japan and Korea, where women are treated with far less respect... especially in times of war! (They also look younger and are in great demand during any pause in the fighting).

It also causes uncontrollable lust for youth (who are thought to be clean and fresh) like those from the Orient shown to the right. This might be one of the reasons for perverted thoughts and causes many to tell wicked stories about all girls from that time on!

"What does a bitch in heat have in common with…" 

Some jokes are told by wicked men who like to combine bad comments with the female species, while saying things to make women mad!

Yes, a female dog is called a bitch, and yes pigs, along with some other females, do have outward signs showing when they are ready to be bred. But this is nature and natural, and crude jokes about it will continue to be spoken by others, especially by men who have been hurt by women that they cannot, or will not, hurt back in another way!

It is still wrong to make fun of human nature, it will come back and bite you in the butt every time you do, mark my word.

And the human species of woman does have a "heat" cycle too, although some will argue it. A normal woman will swell a bit, and become warmer in temperature... also become warmer to most men around her, shortly before and during this time. She will smell different too, as if there is a man on earth capable of smelling anything that slight of a difference... although it is said if he is tasting it he should notice a difference. There are other signs too, and they can be noticed if you happened to be there at the right time. Almost any "somewhat experienced" man can make them "come" very easy right at that moment too. And with all those extra juices flowing, it will be much easier for her to conceive right then as well. (The man's seed are like fish that must "swim" uphill for the egg. It is very hard for a fish to swim up a dry creek, they are not like salmon, more like polly-wogs).

But the fact that a woman cannot get pregnant if she does not enjoy the act, such as in an actual rape, is not true, other factors are present. Danger and fear are emotions that can cause fluids to flow as well. The seed of a man can also stay alive inside of a woman for a long time afterwards, everything depends on other things, some woman are so bitter their juices kill every last sperm in seconds after ejaculation! OK another joke... not exactly, yes a joke, although somewhat true, but one must take all things into consideration. (In cases of rape, the acid content produced in her juices may be much higher, but it is more the amount of juice than the type... If a man has not come for a while and he "pumps" for a long time before he does come, there will be more juice from him, and more seeds as well). Normal rape is nothing like that, it is described as mean and rough going, the woman is very tight and there is much friction. The man will come after only a few strokes, and this type of man usually has sex with himself often... so there is very little seed produced! The woman who struggles for a long time before allowing the entry will cause his nuts to produce much more fluid than if she had just gave in right away and let it happen. Very few women can really stop a rape unless they are still upright, and at some distance when they know it is about to happen. And then only with proper training, or if they are larger than the man and a better fighter. I have only witnessed rape twice and both women lost in the end, they should have just got it over with sooner and saved all the bruises! (I should have ran away too, men in that mood are like dangerous animals)! 

Women can vary a great deal, no two are completely alike. We can classify them many different ways, I will only discuss two, the small frame and the large one, most others fall in between these two groups...

The small/skinny/tiny type often do not have sex organs to match... A common declaration is "big ass, big pussy, small ass, all pussy." Men can also vary this way too, I was an example of that in my early days. If I was a larger man my organ would not be considered so big, that in itself can be a problem. (When penetrating a woman you want to go all the way in, so you finish each stroke by rubbing against her "button area" above the opening. If this is not possible, or comfortable, the woman will not be pleased as easily). Anything longer than 5 inches can "bottom out" on these smaller women, causing problems, various positions can help with that problem, but it does not fix it, you must change partners!. We will not address these various positions_____ here, only one is truly the correct one in god's book, and it goes like this: Man on top of woman and facing her, with very little pressure on her body. You must keep most of your weight on your knees and arms! Paying close attention to breathing, hardness of nipples, and flushing color... to know when to go the fastest. The angle should vary, beginning with more of a "straight-in" angle, with the man down low, followed by moving higher up on the body at times for a few strokes, as the button becomes less sensitive. You can tell when you are too high too soon, if the woman raises her opening and tilts it up, you are having too much contact with the button before she can enjoy it. This can lead to her losing concentration and thinking too much about changing the angles to control intensity. The frame of mind of a normal woman during sex is much different than a man. He can think of other naked women or a number of things to come, a woman cannot, she must feel her way to the climax, having to think, or correct your movements can lose the moment for her. Just as the setting affects the woman much more than the man... she should be in a setting that is totally relaxed, safe, and secure (a man can do it on a flag pole in the middle of Time Square). 

The movement should vary too, leading up to a very fast pace during any climax, immediately followed by slight pushes to match her pulsing. Then followed by a calm "snuggle," until she is ready to continue... If done right, this girl can "come" a number of times... If not done right, many girls cannot come at all. In fact sometimes she cannot come until trained to do so, due to her disadvantage in size. And it is harder for a small sized girl to come at all, let alone every time!

Larger women can come much easier/stronger/longer, and can come more times and more often! I do not know why this is but I think it is because they have been coming more for so many generations it just comes naturally to them. Being short in "man" size is not a problem either, according to men... The old joke compares it to fishing... "It is not the size of the worm, it is how you wiggle it." This is not normally true once some women have birthed a baby, unless the doctor places some "stitches" on the area where her virginity once was, or she is able to stretch enough to allow birth and then shrink all the way back again. And the length of the "worm" must at least reach past the point where sperm enters for conception, sometimes know as the "G" spot area... which is not that far, often no more than 3 or 4 inches inside her. But for a "total experience" to work correctly, in this position anyway, the man must be at least 6 inches... Otherwise when he shifts forward and directs his body from a more upward approach, (to stimulate the button directly during the final strokes before her climax), the stroke must still be long enough to have several inches of movement. This will allow the lips to flex all the way, in both directions... If he is too short he will surly "pop" out at a bad time. Remember, the part of the opening that keeps him "in" is farther inside the woman... for sure over an inch, sometimes more, this is right where she is the tightest, where her muscle control is best. Popping out can stop the "tide from rushing in," within her mind, and cause her to start over in building the momentum for her climax. Also having the girl begin to act so excited while rushing to grab it and get it back in real fast can make the man come right at that time, ending all hopes of her climaxing during this session.  

All women are said to grow in this area at the age of puberty, the hips widen and the length deepens, but small women do not grow enough... they must chose their mate wisely! I do not know enough to be talking much about it, I have not had that much experience in it myself, only mostly the discussion of others about it. Oriental prostitutes were the only smaller women I have ever had any experiences with, but they talked a great deal about this problem. I also know normal American women can take over seven inches inside, and the last half is wide open with no feeling to speak of. I can only ask you to imagine the shape of a standard bottle of Karo syrup, with a double set of wax lips attached to the opening. The first set of lips is all you may see when they are not excited, at the top of the second set, which is often compared to a canoe, is a button somewhat inside. After excited, the other set of lips appear to swell, becoming slippery... even if not excited you can see them inside the first set, if she opens her legs very wide. You may now see the button, which is actually just inside the second canoe, and it still may not be swelled enough to appear, it will grow just like the male equivalent of a hard-on as she becomes more excited. (But it is very sensitive, and can shrink if directly touched by anything rough... about the only thing that can touch it before the girl is more than half way to her climax is the smooth underneath side of a man's tongue, even that may cause the girl to receive too much intensity to continue building momentum). I was told it is best not to directly touch it during the "fresh" part of a girl's sex life, possible until she has had over a thousand climaxes or has been active for a number of years, maybe even until she has reach her sexual peak, normally about half way through her life, (that could be 22 for yellow skin and as old as 48 for Scandinavian women). For sure do not over stimulate it during the early times of sexual awakening, it is the key to a successful sex life for her and should not be "deadened" or desensitized. She can also have a "penetration" climax, from the feelings of her inter lips combined with the "tight area" friction and the dick ridge moving past the "G" spot. However it is often not as strong or long lasting, and may not cause her to want sex as much as a typical man does. This is why the button is burned off by wicked men when women become too horny in some nations of the world... and why it is surgically removed by many African and other tribes of many third world countries. History says they decided thousands of years ago this button causes more problems than it cures, and removing it gives them better control over the women! God or evolution did not place it there for no reason, and he did not leave it off of other species for no reason! We must all respect what he has done and treat it with the respect it deserves. The best way to turn it on without "over-stimulating" is to not directly touch it until the girl is far enough into the sexual experience to enjoy the intense feeling it causes, normally just before every climax, or at a few times leading up to the second or third major climax. Indirect stimulation is best at first for sure, by using two fingers to "scissor" the lips on each side, rather than letting them actually touch the button directly! Even that can be a bit too intense if not done correctly, it is best to watch a girl do it to herself or to another girl and practice with directions given by someone who is not afraid to talk about it. This is the main reason some women finally give up on stupid men and go to a woman for the extreme pleasure that no man has ever been able to give her. It is also the main reason for many failed sexual relationships that could have worked out with proper training!

There is no reason for this to happen in this modern day, with all the open communication between the sexes and on the Internet. I always remember stories like the Ann Landers letters about ignorant sex in the sixties. One was a college couple trying to get his "thing" into her belly button, another said simply "neither of us took any of our clothes off, but he did hurt me for a second, and I did start my period then, could I really be pregnant, I have not had a period since, and it has been months, I am gaining quite a bit of weight lately." You can look into the past and see it caused many problems in early days too. One King took his bride to the wedding bed, only to see a large bush of hair down there. This was not like all the statues of naked women he had seen... he would not allow her in the same bed as his from that point on, finally having her killed for being so abnormal, without ever asking anyone about it! It was mentioned he later learned better from a whore and felt bad about that...

You can call them whores if you want, you can use words like cunt and slut if you think that is cute or hip or whatever, but you should show better respect than that. And in this day and age it is not uncommon to hear a man referred to as a dick or a dork... it does not raise an eyebrow, even among higher class people. Saying a business deal is screwed up or getting screwed out of something is seldom considered unacceptable either, but that is about as far as you should go with sexual language! Be careful when referring to a woman, or her sexuality. Not if you want to get "laid" by that girl anytime in the future!

And learning about the button, especially in countries where they still have one after puberty, that training should be mandatory before the guy expects to be treated as an equal. If you must go to an "expert" on this subject then so be it... maybe it is the wrong approach, while the man is still too young to marry, that would be foolish. But it should be done before he has done much "shopping" for his bride... he may find her and ruin everything needlessly for both of them due to their ignorance on this subject! I know for sure the foolish urge for abnormal things like oral sex or anal sex would not be a problem if more men saw this page earlier in life! 

You cannot expect the woman to take charge in this department either, often she has very little experience with enjoyable sex away from her own pillow, if that even. And if she did not happened to have a close enough friend to introduce her to pillowsex or something, she may be totally at the mercy of the "throbbing member" when she first feels it, or heaven forbid, sees it before she first feels it. The replay of that thought can stop some women from coming before she has ever really had it happen in a very strong or lasting manner, and may stop it from ever happening throughout her entire life. (That often depends on how much of her mind is a feeling mind, and how much of it is a "thinking" mind).

NOTE: You are not quite 1/2 way through reading this article at this point. (That is not even close... this was written for the internet, in a different way than if you read it in a book). It is true you are almost 1/2 way done scrolling down on this page... but it is one of many! In fact each time you see a link while reading right here... it can take you to another page. Notice the color of each of these underlined "link" words is different than the black text. And that color will change again (after you have been to the page at least once) as you navigate through these documents. You may also notice some of this information has a different angle or perspective at times. (Other people were involved), both during and after it was originally written. They had influence... or at least had a different opinion of what was said. At times the information was then updated from the original text. (Like a book that has 'built-in" corrections and revisions).

During the final twenty years before I starting this paper I had spent thousands of hours talking to hundreds of women about this topic... Although many of them were skinny "strippers" who have always had a problem enjoying sex. Normally these type of women are frustrated with the fact that they cannot come as easy, or not at all. Many resign to a life of pleasing men, or teasing men, to get what they want out of life in a different way. If they did enjoy sex at any time, it was with another woman that knew how to please them better, and took the time required to get it done! Normally this is not done without some "shame" and guilty feelings involved, and cannot be an acceptable way of life in many areas of the world, understandable so! And that was not really the fault of the woman though, it was more the ignorance of men causing this, and a problem easily solved... 

Before that even, (during my youth) before I "married" or as it is taught in any religion "joined" with a woman for the last time... (1973), I spent a few years having sex with over 20 women (many of them overseas) and of five different races... At least 15 of them were smaller in size and none of these girls could ever actually reach a major climax, if they could come at all. If I knew what I know now, maybe some of them would have enjoyed it more, and I would have probably married one of them long ago! (I may have remained overseas, and this information would not have been placed here). I also would not have needed to give up sex when my wife turned 45 and came down with cancer. I would not have turned to just talking about sex... And I would have been too busy doing it to write so many papers about it.

My first "almost" encounter with the smallest pussy I ever examined was actually a "seasoned" prostitute I thought at the time to be too young for sex. Other tiny girls were of the smaller "sized" nationalities in five different states throughout America. Others were in Mexico, Alaska, or the Orient... this "young looking one" was in Korea.

Mexican girls were like Indian women, early to mature, and sooner to get fat and lazy. Not all of them, but more than should have been, mostly due to getting married sooner, having more babies more often and closer together! I have read if you plan to marry one, first look at her mother and older sisters over the age of twenty first. If you are happy with what you see, plan on less than fifty good years with them and only one child every five years, letting them get back in shape first. These women are of more pure blood than most, but do not live as long if you do not take extra good care of them!

Women of the Orient also have a very short lifespan, unless you bring them to America and fatten them up on some red meat and other things! They MAY take care of you better than any other woman on this earth too. But your dick better not be much longer than five or six inches, these are small in size down there and they should be taught to lie down and let you do the work. This will be hard to do, but they will thank you for it once they finally have a good climax, after that they will take even better care of you, if that is possible!

Women of Alaska are a very strange group indeed! I should not speak of them much, as I have had very little actual experience "inside" of them. I do not understand why they want to sleep with you before they have hardly said more than "glad to meet you," but it can happen! Sex is optional though, the idea is to keep the guest warm and comfortable, the husband just gets an extra blanket or two during this moment of forbidden sex... and this part I do not understand. Mostly it has to do with "down home" hospitality though, rather than having quiet sex under many furs! I compare it to being offered only to sleep out in the barn, in the hay with only one blanket, at the remote farmhouse... Which is followed by the midnight visit from the girl you winked back at during the supper meal when you met the whole family. If you think the parents of that girl did not hear her leave the house you are mistaken! But rest assured, if it was the time of the month that this girl could have become pregnant from this learning experience, her mother would have sent the dad out to stop her! And sometimes, in rare occasions, the girl who was the most fertile of five, was sent out on purpose, so as to bring new life into an otherwise inbred mountainside!

Once there was a story about what can happen in remote mountain regions like the Smoky mountains of Tennessee, I witnessed such a thing once, and can see no real solution for it. The story was later put to music and it became somewhat of a hit in some areas, in other areas, where it is a problem, they did not think it was so funny as those in the big city or other places with heavy population! It goes something like this... 

Oh daddy, daddy, I like Johnny over on smoky hill, I am now 13, and old enough to marry, oh please daddy, daddy...

Oh Mary, Mary, you cannot marry Mary. Don't tell your mom, but Johnny could be your half brother and you cannot marry him Mary...

Oh daddy, daddy, I love Eddie over on the south ridge, I am almost 16, and more than ready to marry, oh please daddy, daddy...

Oh Mary, Mary.... same story, different verse! This goes on until she is over 21, and almost too old to marry. The second verse of the story is always the same, the man has not been very faithful, especially while caught in storms while hunting for meat, or lonely and far from home. (Any port in a storm, other reasons fit here too)!

The girl is true to her father, and never tells her mom... The final verse is the shocker, the song end with the mother's statement... "Oh Mary, Mary, you could have married, Don't tell your dad, but you are not his" (You should have come to me before you were an old maid, don't tell your dad, but your real dad sells pots and pans in Kentucky now, and you could have married any one of your past lovers)!

I got stranded twice in those mountains while in the Army, (once I got separated during a hunt, the second time I was going AWOL to avoid dying in Vietnam). Both times I lived with several families before returning to civilization. All of these people were different, but one thing was the same everywhere I went, and with all I talked to about these areas. They are not ignorant about sex, nor do they want to have inbred children running around all over either. It does happen though, sometimes by accidental "sex" or the uncontrollable urges of younger boys! The real problem is not the people, it is the remoteness of the area and the lack of outside seed "coming" into the local girls!

One night I found shelter in one of these small cabins with only one room that had any heat, the big room with the fireplace... it was kind of a kitchen/dining/living room combination. The three boys had a room with some straw mattresses leaned up against the walls in the daytime, so did the four girls. The parents had the bedroom on the other side of this fireplace, and the stone kept that room from falling below freezing, even by morning. The other rooms had outside walls and were too cold to stay asleep, even when we all snuggled together. By midnight we had joined the girls on the floor close to the fire on the bear rugs, the dad was snoring in the next room... we could hardly hear him, but I was still afraid! At about 1 AM I was still not able to get to sleep next to this girl that seemed to keep snuggling her bare bottom up next to me, and I had to use the outhouse anyway... They had real cows milk, something I really liked, but could not get in the city, I had drank too much of it and having to "go" can also cause a hard-on, let alone what this girl appeared to be trying to do with it every time she could find it under all those furs! 

The youngest boy was still awake for some reason, he saw me get up and put my clothes on, he also volunteered to carry the light, I did not argue with him. Believe it or not, it burned some kind of smelly oil and was hard to light, although they did have flashlights, they did not use them normally, that cost real money and they had very little of that! I think Billy-boy was his name, all the other boys had double first names with Bob being the second one. His dad's name was also Billy. All the girls had double names too, it was Sally-Mae that I was wondering about and ask him... that was a big mistake! I almost froze to death getting that answer! (He was the youngest of all these children, not even quite 12 yet, but knew more about sex than I did, and I was almost twice his age)! He started out by explaining about his oldest sister having a baby two years ago that was still-born and not all there, or should I say too much there! I stopped him but understood it was his older brother that had caused it to happened and he knew how! He said the girls all now wore a heavy rag "from the front of the belt to the back" twice a month now in the winter time, and would until they married, daddy's orders, no exceptions! Once for about a week while on their period, (he added only three days for the youngest... but Sally-Mae now had a five day period, and was ready to marry if she needed to, all the way to the oldest, who had been having trouble with getting regular after the baby, and always wore the rag to bed this winter). This was more information than I needed, but I ask about that "second rag time" business, I thought these girls were somehow different than other girls. He went into more detail... from the tenth day, after the last period started, until the nineteenth day of their cycle. They had to wear a very tight thick one to prevent one of the boys from having a "wet-dream" inside of them during the colder nights when the wind blew and most of the kids wound up on the floor by the fire in the morning! I ask why they did not wear clothes or underwear to bed? He said clothes lasted a long time unless you tossed and turned in them, underwear could not even be made at home and cost too much, nobody ever wore them. The simple sack gown was all anyone had ever worn at night as long as he could remember, and they often saw each other naked and thought nothing of it, although not so with the parents, who slept alone, and did not even make love anymore as far as he knew! In fact he spoke of making love more like making sperm, it was not something a girl was suppose to do until she married, but it was ok for her to "make come" as he called it. Making love was when the girl took part, faced the man, and made noise after a while, making come was when the girl allowed it, from behind, and cleaned up the mess afterwards.

OK, this was interesting, and we were now sitting on the lamp, out in a stinking outhouse in the middle of nowhere, on a long winter night in January... 

What do you mean, clean up the mess, what mess? 

Well, he did not know much about the mess, only heard about that from his brothers. That happened before he was old enough to make a mess, or cared to, he did not make any mess when he did it, neither did she! He said he squirted inside and that was ok, according to his brothers, who now did it too. He said one of his brothers could last an hour, and squirted quite a bit when he did, and the girl squirted too sometimes, and had to get up and get the rag before it soaked into the bear skin after they were finished. He said it was something the girls allowed only if the boys did some of their chores or did something nice for them afterward. He said it did not happen every night they were together, but almost every night for at least someone. He said that was why wintertime was almost as much fun as summertime! He said one night not long ago only one of the girls were "available" and all four boy did her, starting with him, ending with the boy who took an hour! This sister did not like it much normally, often wanting to do chores in the cold all day long rather than allow anyone but him to do it. He said he was almost never refused by any of the girls, being the youngest, and favored by dad the most! He said the other boys said this was sometimes an uncontrollable thing that built up inside of you, and then necessary to do it, as you got older it would get worse, and you were not to play with yourself to do it at any time! That was what sisters were for, and it was part of their growing up to understand this too. He said they did not talk about it much, only with his brothers, his sisters never talked about it either that he knew of, they just understood it at a younger age and had the easy part anyway, they did not have to talk about it much anyway, they just had to hold still! 

He went on then, to explain what happened to the girl who did not like any part of this arrangement, sometimes catching cold alone in the bedroom to prevent it, mostly when she knew she was the only one not wearing a rag to bed. Which was maybe the case on this night as well, for sure the way it was the night not long ago he was telling me about! He said that night he did it and came fast, she did not move and acted like she was asleep the whole time, but towards the end she had straightened out somewhat (with a sign of relief or pleasure) as he almost did not finish inside of her and just about made his first "mess." Then his first brother did it and he was slower, but finished in a few minutes. She reached down and placed her hand between her legs after he finished and scooted closer to the fire. She was across from him, facing the fire, and seemed to be moving her hand a little he noticed. He thought she was "springing her spring" or something.

Keep in mind, this was an 11 year old boy, who was smarter than me in many things about adult sex life. He had already completed his home-schooling and had his GED, the equivalent of a high school education. He even knew more about this "spring" than I did, and had never seen one up close or enlarged... He knew his sister was not suppose to play with it, only her life-mate, and only after they were declared married. He said he had learned about it by accident when he over heard a conversation between the pregnant girl and the "up-tight" girl (after the mother gave them the "marriage talk" together) just before she began her trial marriage and left home!

The marriage "trial" had not worked, and this girl was now considered an old maid, at the age of 20 or maybe 22... not sure on that one! This girl had hardly spoken at the meal either, not even when they had the "togetherness time" and all others had their chance to discuss their day. It was as if she had been abandon by her own family, as if her life did not matter anymore. Nobody showed her much consideration and she acted like a broken-minded person, I felt bad when he even said "it don't matter about her, she already had her life, she is just looking for a way to make a living now, and she is not good at anything." I changed the subject back to Sally-Mae and he said "she don't matter either, she is on the rag right now and not available, I want to finish telling you about the "up-tight" girl, that is the one you should do tonight, I will even let you go first if you want, but second or third is better, let me finish telling you"!

He went on to tell about her quietly playing with herself after the second boy. Before long she scooted up against the third boy next to her and reach around, getting him ready. He "serviced" her quickly and went back to sleep, but not before waking up the "long-laster," who always wanted sex, but seldom got it! He got in right away and started going fast, much quicker than normal. The boy ask me why I thought this happened, normally all three girls he had done were tight when he started and it was hard to get everything going good at first. The same thing happened when he watched others doing it before, everything started slow and rough going, it got easier as they got their bodies in the right position, ending with a little gasp from the boy, and a sound of relief from the girl. In the beginning he said the older boys had to pull out and push it forward, coming into the girl's hand, which was almost always there to catch it when the time came. This movement was normally followed by the girl grabbing a rag and cleaning herself and the rug, then going back to sleep. This was somewhat of an embarrassing thing to do, as others watched, he said everyone always pretended to be sleeping, but sometimes it would start another boy to thinking he needed it and he would start scooting up to the girls until he found one really asleep. Then he would lick his hand, wet the end of his dick, and slip it as far into her as he could before she woke up, which was not as easy as he thought once he started doing it. It was not too long after that the oldest girl had her baby and the new rules changed everything. Now there was not as much sex, and not as many available either, but it was better because there was no mess on her stomach or her hand and she did not have to get out of the covers either. Two of the girls even pretended to sleep through it now, you could stay inside them and fall asleep, he liked that the most! In fact he said he was much closer to these two for a long time and would do chores for them without even having any sex. He said even the other girl had never refused him, although she never look around, but knew somehow who had done her, and who was going to do some of her chores the next day. He said his oldest brother was getting plenty of sex from one of the girls that had the red spot at the waterfall, and almost never got it at home, mostly because he took so long. But this night was different, and it seemed to him that she could not wait for his last brother to slide it in and start pumping, this part had him puzzled, and why did it all go so well so fast (saying this was not normal at all) it had seldom happened before!

I was not sure, but was glad to finally be a part of this discussion. I told him I thought both him and his brothers had come too close to her opening, making things more slippery, and if she played with herself she would be more open and slippery on her own as everything down in that area always got slippery when you played with the "spring" for a while. I added that if she played with herself long enough she would come, her opening would open wide, and leak all over. I saw it happen once after a football team gang-bang. The girl had over a cup full of white milky liquid on the seat between her legs in less than a minute of surging, she had been pumped full of fish! (I was not on the team. But I did take her home. In fact I also paid her to do interview work several times during the Sturgis Bike Rally).

He agreed in part, but said this girl had never climaxed, in fact none of them could, or ever had, except the old maid. And never while being screwed sideways from behind that he knew of, and then he told me a big "secret" after I promised never to tell of it until she was dead. I hope she is not dead, but I will now tell you the big "secret" he made me promise never to tell, this is the first time I have ever mentioned it to anyone!

It happened late in the summer before, after she had her baby and was trying to get over it. She was at a waterfall and had a wild gourd with her from the forest. He looked at it up close later and described it in this way. It was maybe a foot long and curled a bit, with a big bump the size of a baseball close to one end. She had carved on it some with a knife and it was smooth at both ends. She spent over an hour doing the wash and conditioning of her hair, he had began to watch this process after he got old enough to get hard. He said it was not wrong to watch as long as he did not touch himself, he said when the neighbor girls did their hair it was very hard not to touch himself but he never did... I doubt this very much from the way he looked away from my eyes when he talked about it. I also doubt this was the only girl to use this tool either, as it was placed behind the waterfall on a ledge that had been carved out of solid rock just for that purpose. And the ledge was so high he had to get a stump to get at it, but whatever... These were very quiet simple folks who lead a clean and correct life, except for screwing each other while they were growing up! Maybe this thing was reserved for older woman who had been told where it was at... if they could not be pleased by their husbands, and needed a release from time to time. He did say all his sisters and several girls from other families used this same place to do their hair, and nobody ever used it but her. I asked him if he ever watched any married women do their hair and he became frightened just at the thought. He said others knew about the "looky" spot, and if a married woman went there you went away real fast, he said that was private and you could go to hell just for wanting to watch that! He also said married women did not need to do their hair anyway, they often cut it short in fact, as soon as they had a few kids and a good marriage! (I also really doubt this tool was used by many girls either, that is more of a man's fantasy anyway). 

All four of these girls had long beautiful hair... it did not smell too good, kind of strange in fact, but silky smooth and well managed. They had it up in the daytime, but brushed it every night, often brushing each other while having "family time" according to him. And the family had only one brush, they had only one of many things in fact, sharing was very common and quite touching. Anyway, he continued...

The girl finished applying her "plant" conditioner not long after he got there that day, this was when the fun part normally happened anyway. Most girls would do the equivalent of exercises I guess you would call it, he called it preparing the body for marriage! It sounded like what girls do to enlarge their breasts these days, although I have never seen a girl try to push them under their arms or pull down on the nipples before, don't know why they did that, seems like a painful thing to do and I cannot see it helping in any way! He said some girls did other things with them, but at least half of the normal hour of "conditioning" was spent on the breast region. The other half was spent stretching their legs and pounding on their stomach? I am not sure about that one either, but I did not question him, he was on a roll...

He said she laid down on the grass mat like others did and began stretching her legs apart, this was the part he always found the most interesting. He said there were now three girl, out of over a dozen he watched do this, that had a red spot between their legs at times while doing this. After the scissor exercise and the "raise them high and run" thing was done the red spot was brighter and bigger. I asked him if it was the blonds or the older girls, or who it was? He said the age did not matter, nor the color of the hair, it was the size of their hips. The biggest hips had the brightest red spots, and he added of the nine or ten blonds, only one of them were blond down there. This girl was a blond on top only, but was one of the three that always had a red spot... Today was different though, as she began to play with herself and put her finger inside and everything. I ask if he had ever seen that happened before and he said only with the younger girls with very little hair and never with a finger inside, they normally quit doing it after a minute or two. (I ask if any of them did not have any hair at all down there and he said it was not nice to stare at those girls, that was almost as bad as looking at a married girl. He said you would not go to hell for wanting a young girl who could not get married yet, but you were on the bad road, and should turn back before anybody saw you on that road... remember this kid was 11 years old and had never been to church!

We were almost freezing to death by now and I ask him to talk faster, that is when he mentioned her reaching up with a stick and catching something behind the waterfall. She came back out and positioned herself on the mat with the tool all wet from holding it in the water, she laid it down closest to him. He said he could have reached it with the same stick she tossed in the bush below him. He said he was real scared right then and had trouble even breathing, he was afraid she would hear him above the sound of the waterfall. I ask him how he could be so close and not be seen. He said she was in bright sun, he was in the middle of a large bush above her, she could not see through it looking at the sun anyway. This was a well planned hiding spot set up by experts, I think used by many! He did say there were other spots, on up the hill, he had used them too, anytime someone was already in this one, but it was the best by far. I think the girls must have known of these spots too, and may have "performed" for the guys they wanted to marry. But I doubt this girl knew he was watching that day, he did say it was a workday, not a wash day, and he had traded chores with a brother just to get to come down to watch. He said he liked to watch the three girls with the red spots because it interested him so much more than any other girls, he did not know why! He said he knew ahead of time that this sister was going to "condition" because she had gone out the day before to get some more of the conditioner from the forest. He never knew when the other two were going down, they were not in his family, his other sisters were much smaller and somewhat shapeless, not really fun to watch, except when they stretched out their boobs! But now he saw something very strange and scary, and was too afraid to try to leave. And the girl was making strange sounds too, something he thought might even hurt her voice, they were so low. She did the finger again, then all four fingers fairly deep, then reached for the tool. At first only going in about half way, maybe less, he thought about four inches... In and out faster and faster, then more curved to the top side and a bit deeper sometimes, often going slow and then fast, deep and then up and around some. Finally real fast and all the way in, the ball part slapping on her spring... Then he said she just let out a scream, without much sound to it, and passed out cold with the tool deep inside her. She did not move, but it did, bobbing up and down a number of times, slowly coming out... before it came all the way out on its own he noticed she was now holding her breasts, but only softly, not pulling or anything, just rubbing mostly. She did this for a while, breathing heavier again as she started played with her spring and then reached for the tool. This time turning it around not long after she started using it. He could not believe his eyes when that ball disappeared inside of her so easy, he said it went all the way in on the third try. He said she had her legs bent a little and spread wide, with both hands shoving on the skinny part shaped like a banana. After it went in about three inches past the ball she let go of it and it stayed there for a minute. She really went wild at this time, rubbing her spring with one hand, her breast with the other. All of a sudden the thing began to disappear on its own, it went almost all the way in before she begin to shake and make funny sounds. It stopped with only a few inches left outside and she moved in quick motions for almost a minute, then laid quiet for a long time. It stopped moving not long after she did, but it did not come out, it went a bit deeper if anything! He said she had by far the biggest and brightest red spot he had ever seen at this time and there was white stuff running down the mat between her legs. Now he knew why it was a spring, at first he thought she had gone to the bathroom a little. His brother told him about how a girl could spring a leak if they played too long at the spring, and that they were not to ever do that themselves or it would not feel right when their husband later did it. He said he would know more about the spring when he was ready for a trial marriage and it did not concern him much right now, but wondered if I knew more about it. I did not, and did not care to talk about it either, I wanted to go in, I was freezing, he thought I was in a hurry to have sex with the only girl available that night! He said he first must finish the story about her having all four boys in one night, and what happened with the last one. He said if he could get a few other boys to wake up enough to screw her first, I may be able to go last, and have a "good ride" like his brother did that night. He went on to explain, I was now interested in taking part!

He said shortly after they started, the girl pulled him by the arm on top of her and began bouncing her butt into the air a bit, doing as much moving as he did. After a while she made a great deal of noise and everyone woke up when she come, the dad even quit snoring for a minute! The brother rolled off of her while she was still crying, he even got the rag for her, and there was quite a mess too, it took her a while to get back into bed. This was not suppose to happened, not ever... The girl should not take part at all. That was something she was only to do with her husband to be, and only when she was sure he would become her husband! She was not to move, other than to readjust herself to make the going easier, even the neighbor friends from far away said it was like that in their home! Every family in this entire mountain range was like that as far as he knew, I later found out this was true. Why had she done such a thing, was she going to hell for it? And why did she make the coming sound with her own brother inside of her? I asked him a simple question, why is it alright for all your brothers to come all they want in whomever they want, and your sisters cannot? 

He answered it very directly, without any thought... they did not want to, or need to, and they could get pregnant easy if they did it that way. He said it would be ok if I made her come as often as I wanted. If I stuck around maybe we would make a fine baby and I did not even have to wait to see it. She could marry someone else close by or not even get married for a while yet. The main thing was that a "correct" baby would now be in the house to replace the one they had lost, it would even help the old maid to have that happened! He in fact said his mom and dad might even agree with him on this fact, I said we should not make a sound if this was going to happen. He said it was up to me then, he would stay out of it, but advised me to warm up by the fire before snuggling up to her bottom... I agreed and we finally went back inside.

I stood by the fire looking over the situation, he helped me load more logs on and then went to the far side and laid down by himself. According to him I was now looking at four unmarried girls in a small circle, three of which were not available. The first girl was the oldest, she was covered because her cycle was not regular. The second girl was awake and watching me through squinted eyes, I could see them shining in the fire light between her tiny blinks. She was covered because she was on her period. The third girl was the available one, but I think she was sleeping all the time, she had not even moved all night, she was also probably not even sixteen! The last girl was Sadie-Mae, she was suppose to be covered due to her fertile time, but I already knew she was not, she had placed her tiny butt against me hours ago. She had ideas of her own it seemed and I did not know what to do about it. She might be too small for me and I doubt she was much older than the other girl either! I was still trying to figure out what to do when she got up and came over to me at the fire, first starting to rub my back to get it warm. Then I turned around to warm my back and she rubbed my hands, shortly after she placed them between her legs right below her hair, she was already wet! I decided to end this and I pulled away, she dropped down to my feet and begin to warm them, slowly working up both legs. I had on a large undershirt type gown that hung past my knees, I figured this might be the best time to show her what she was dealing with. I raised my shirt up above my middle, it was sticking straight out, even pointing up a little. The girl that was suppose to be asleep let out a "sucking air" sound. Sadie-Mae just rolled her eyes back a bit and went and laid down, nothing was said. I laid down behind the old maid of 21 and reached around and played with her breasts for a minute, she reach around and started to feel me, then sat up real fast and looked me straight in the eyes for a long time... It seemed like minutes, but was probably only a few seconds, it just seemed like forever. She kept blinking, softly at first, then real hard several times, finally she rubbed one of her eyes. I realized she was still waking up, but she had not let go of me with the other hand, I was a little worried about this, as I had not even spoken to her since coming into this home. Then she said something out loud, maybe loud enough for her parents to hear behind that heavy door. She said simply "what do you want me to do? I will..." She did not finish the sentence, I had placed my finger on her lips. I told her to lay down on her tummy and help me find her little button. She seemed to understand, but was a bit surprised, so was the girl we were laying next to, who must have heard me. Three of the four girls and two of the boys were now awake, although I only knew of a few of them, they later told me they woke up the other girl after seeing what we were doing. The dad was snoring fairly loud and everyone was very quiet, even she was most of the time throughout the next hour or so. I was about to try something a good friend had told me about the year before, as I finished college and we spent some time together after graduation. He said "for two years now you have been asking me stupid questions about sex and I have not bothered to tell you any right answers, I feel guilty about it and am now going to tell you a good secret." He then told me his wife had been a "bitchy whore" and could not come very easy when he first slept with her. He had hired her to do his books and soon he noticed she could run the whole company anytime he was away, often better than he did! He decided he would have to marry her or his business would fail some day. The only problem was that he liked sex more often than she did and they were not going to be happy, he would wind up cheating on her. He had learned from his days in the military that very few marriages could survive such behavior so they went to an expert in Japan to get sexual advise. This method of sex was the answer and it had now worked for them for six years, it went like this... Anytime she was not in the mood, but he wanted it, she would get on top of him and do a number of things for a few minutes and he would come right away... That part he did not explain to me, he said it did not matter, only a whore could do that and I would not be marrying one anyway so it was not important! The other half of their love making was the important part, it was reserved for when she was in the mood, and was wanting to reach her own climax. The woman placed a pillow just below her breasts and laid down on it, leaving a gap just below her belly button, room enough for his hand on one side and hers on the other. He would play with her outer lips and inter lips while she "worked" the button. He would slide his dick up and down the entire crack from the back, often entering her opening once it was very juicy, but not before she was about to come the first time, if even then. He would also rub her breast and one side of her back, changing hands every once in a while, holding on to her shoulder any time he penetrated her. If he did it right he would hear her getting ready to come and make the first hard fast strokes at that time, using both of his hands on her shoulders. Then he would remain inside until she stopped pulsing, pushing less hard on each pulse until she could hardly feel the pressure on her butt or her shoulders. Followed by a snuggle without penetration, only touching the lips and her crack with the hard dick, very little movement, just some slight pressure. Now hold on to her breasts and let her work the button directly, but by herself. Wait for her to set the momentum, concentrate on the breasts and even the nipples at times, but do not over stimulate them directly, get as close as you can to the "bud" but treat it like her button, very gentle! After she wants you inside just go in a bit past the tight area and back out for a while, then move higher up and go in at an angle pointing more down... make the end of your dick rub on the front top part of her inside, past the tight area, where the big bump is inside of her. Keep trying different places until she says yes, that will be the "G" spot. Work it for a while and then slid back down and give her all you got several times. If it appears she is ready to come right now start making a slapping sound on her butt at the deepest point of your stroke and go as fast as you can, coming out as far as you dare each stroke. If she has not come real hard in a few minutes of this go back to what you were doing before, all three different movements... and alternate them until she comes. Do not do anything longer than a minute before changing, and do not give up. Try the shoulders and back too, do not miss any spot on her that you can reach while remaining on your knees and elbows, do not place any weight on her at any time!

I did the same things to this girl until she came so hard she could not move for over ten minutes. She came twice before I entered her all the way, and twice more before I got to the slapping part, I came once before that too. She came hard right after the slapping part started and said she did not even feel it building up, it just exploded all at once! She was ready again in less than a few minutes and we both lasted a long time after that, maybe close to an hour. All the boys had fallen back to sleep, none of the girls did though, I think two of them made it by themselves after this girl started telling me what different things felt like, and I was telling her what I was doing. I came again and she faced me while we got each other ready for more, then we got back in the same position and she made it one more time. I think that was at the exact time Sadie-Mae was in the same position, and made it for the first time in her life, all by herself! I do not feel bad about that either, I could not make love to all of them. But in effect they all felt like I was, which made it alright for them to enjoy it, and even the girl on her period had at least one climax. The "up tight" girl was not completely satisfied yet though, and after my partner told me she could not stand another climax at that time the other girl asked me if I would help her. The other one said to go ahead and she would be OK with it. I did get inside of the up tight girl and she was not tight at all, in fact very easy, but I could not get it all the way in as she scooted up on it, she was not very deep! I did raise up on top of her and did the slapping thing fairly correct until she come hard enough to put her to sleep. I did not come, but remained inside of her the rest of the night, he was right, that is a nice way to wake up. I did not do anything though, several of the boys were awake and the girls were starting breakfast with their mom. The dad was having his pipe in bed and beginning to cough, the oldest girl told me I better move away from the other girl before dad went out to the john, he may see something! I got up and dressed, even helped everyone with all the chores I knew how to do, I milked one of the cows and broke ice... the normal things. We all ate two meals and did all the work for the day without saying anything about what had happened to each other. Although I saw something in the mother's eyes and it had to do with the one I was inside of when she got up. I was thinking about going AWOL before Vietnam and remaining in these mountains until the war was over, but I did not want to marry that tight little girl and did not know if I would get a choice in the matter. I was almost over due to report in for my last schooling so I walked down to the road and got a ride to the bus station. All the kids walked me part way, nobody said goodbye, they all said they would see me later. Only my sex partner walked me all the way to the road, it took several hours and I would never have found my way without her... she did not cry until the truck stopped to pick me up. And she said it was a happy cry, the first in a long time, and what was meant to be would be, not to worry about life or living in it, but just to be sure to live good while I was in it!         

At this time I did not have much experience in making girls happy while in the sex act itself, and was only interested in finishing the job without hurting her normally. The experience at the cabin in the mountains had made me sore for a week or two and I thought for a while I was never going to be able to get another hard-on, it hurt so bad when it started to get hard I did some serious praying for a time. I got honor graduate out of Ft. Knox and was allowed to go to the advanced school in Georgia several months later. I stopped by on the way through, but could not find the cabin again. I met some other interesting people though, while looking up and down that mountain, I decided to go on with life as it had been planned out for me and forgot about her! I am just sorry I do not know her name, I am not sure her name was even mentioned in fact. I remember her face though, and the happy tears on it, as clear as I can remember others who have been dead for many years... I remember what she taught me too, and what that kind of life has that is good, very simple and straight forward, but good, maybe a better life than most have. She would be old now, but some strong women live way past 50 in those hills, I hope she did well. If she ever reads this I hope she will contact me and let me know what happened to her and her family! I may have moved on, but part of me may have remained! 

She was the last of the full sized women for me in lovemaking for a while, I was to learn many things about that during my year in Korea.

My experience with larger women was more enjoyable before my year in Korea, then I married a big-boned woman for good soon after that, ending any other sexual experiences. All information obtained after that has been with the few larger ones I have visited with about it, which can hardly be considered first hand or possibly not totally the truth. (The number of separate sources is not as many either, less than thirty total).

When I say larger, I do not mean really large, I mean larger than me... Anyone taller than 5' 2" and weighing more than 125 lbs... At the end of college it was over 5' 4" and 135. The largest girl I ever had was about 5' 8" and 175 lbs... She could come while standing in the doorway of her home in less than five minutes with my hand down her pants. Once we did it in her basement while she was holding her little brother's bedroom door closed, as her mother was yelling from upstairs for her to let her brother go! This girl was fun to make love to as well, until she scared me when she went crazy on her third climax once, and made all kinds of funny sounds... She would call me up at work at the bakery and tell me to get five donuts ready... (This meant she was baby-sitting and I was to get five glazed donuts and get off early... I would go to the address, we both played with each other while she slid the donuts on. I would make her come at least once while she ate the donuts? One time she came twice... she really liked donuts). During that last session she came just as I did, but for the third time. She screamed and did other things... I thought she was possessed or something and I never dated her again! (To me at the time, crazy was anything that caused unpredictable behavior).

This was the only true "nymphomaniac" I ever dated, I do remember her name was Pam, but I did not know what a "nympho" was at the time or I might have proposed to her! She was going to college to be an accountant at the time, (1970), I don't know what happened to her... If she is still out there? I wish I could have another chance to explain myself, I am wiser now! 

Although I knew very little then, one thing I noticed was that the larger they were, especially in the hips, the easier/faster/harder they came... Mostly after I was playing with their button, if I did much of that at all! Often if we had sex in a hiding place or my car it was over in less than 10 minutes. I played with the button until the area got slippery, taking a few minutes or so, then it was over shortly after that, normally a girl that size could still come at least once, but not that strong... (Often only pulsing a few times).

Until after my time in Korea I did not even know a woman was suppose to "climax" during actual sex and thought the "button" was to make them come first... (So the penetration was painless and made them ready to accept any size or any amount of friction).

A few small women I had before Korea did come at times, and I thought it had just happened by accident! I was very self-centered at this time and often had sex just to "conquer" the girl, add her to the list of girls to call back. Then it was "back on the hunt," like I said, self-centered... I seldom would go out with, or at least spend any money on, for sure past a third or fourth date... if I had not "conquered" them by then. It seldom happened either, girls were very willing to have sex if you were persistent about it. This was at a time of loose morals in America! The Woodstock mini-skirt/free-love/going to "Die in Vietnam" years... 

I think I was also trying to make up for lost time. (A dumb farm kid that knew about sex, but thought of it more like a duty or a chore. Necessary to add to the flock, but in no hurry to add it to my list of chores). I did play with myself a little while still in high school but it was over in seconds and the guilty feelings lasted into the night. I even "fingered" a girlfriend some... but that took forever!

I was 17 when I went to college and throughout those two years I did not have a girl younger than 16, most were over 18 and older than I was. Of these first eight girls only two were virgins and both of them were the same age as me. While in College I got the very first one I screwed pregnant on my 18th birthday, which was also my first time actually having sexual intercourse! This was also the first time my dick had ever been involved or had been touched by anything other than my own hand. That relationship ended abruptly during the announcement of this pregnancy. Mostly due to bad reactions by parents and myself. She ran away and had the baby while married to an old boyfriend. I saw her and the little boy only once after that and she had not forgiven me, I feel I still must do something about that before I die!

After this disaster I was careful to find out every girl's cycle before planning the sex date with her, and timed it right so I never got another one pregnant. Once I had to use a rubber, and had a terrible time finding one... (This was back before you could find one in every public bathroom, only in truck-stop bathrooms along the Interstate and at a drug store)! This was also about my worst sexual experience... hers as well. It was probably the only time in my life that both of us were not "in the mood," neither of us wanted to do it, and both of us agreed after we tried to do it that we should just stop. It was one of only two times in my entire active sex life that I did not come, and I do not know why... To read about it. Click here! (First Book-mark this page to come back easy... or just stay on this page and read it later)!

My third conquest was the first one to come hard enough for me to notice, and that happened by accident about a month after we started doing it. It was a "questionable" night that was too close to her 14th day to be coming inside her. She liked me to play with her, but did not like to stop this petting and have me get inside of her, which is what I always did anyway. We were in my apartment and had all evening, I ask her to try playing with me, something nobody had done to this point. She refused, which was not that uncommon at the time, girls that did that were not though well of, even by other girls! We finally decided I would play with her for a while and then she would get on top of me if she wanted it in. I figured this would just be another night like my young years with my first love, and I would wind up hurting in my balls and she would get tired of it after a while. Instead something strange happened! She got very excited and came strong enough I though she was going to pass out or something. We had drank some wine before and did everything slow and easy, at first anyway... She had been a virgin two months ago and had never played with herself while growing up, it was probably her first climax. She said her mouth was dry and I got up to get her some water, checking the wine bottle to see if maybe she had drank to much of it earlier while I was picking out the 8-track tapes. She had not so I brought her some more, she drank some and laid back down on my hand, asking for more, which was also uncommon! I was playing with her and noticed she was not very tight inside anymore, I could get at least two and almost three fingers inside of her. After I did that she mounted me, our first time in this position, and she went wild on me after only a few more minutes, I am sure it was less than ten, maybe only six or seven! In fact I started to come as she was coming the second time... I was playing with her large breasts and otherwise holding completely still. I was surprised I had come at all, without doing anything, but could not stop once I felt it coming so I pushed her upward on the bed and placed my entire hand into her up to my thumb, I could not believe it had gotten that big! This made her come harder and she made those funny noises... very soft though, and sweet sounding! After almost a minute of uncontrollable "shakes" it was over and I thought she had wet the bed! What happened next was what really surprised me though, as she was normally a very shy and reserved girl, never letting out her true feelings! She began to hug and kiss me, she said things like "what can I do for you, anything you want, just say how and I will do it" type of comments... At first I thought she was talking about fixing me a meal or something and I had nothing in the house for food! This was before the days a "blow job" was talked about unless you were talking about hookers or the town slut... a "hand-job" was rare too, only done if the girl was on her period and she had a very much in demand boyfriend who threatened to go elsewhere. Even then, if it happened the girl would never admit it and the boy did not tell, especially if he wanted to keep that girlfriend! She later told me she was talking about that kind of stuff, and she did not know what had come over her. She said then she was glad I had not "lowered" her to that level... 

Strange how times have changed that concept, girls these days get tongues pierced while still in high school... often claiming it was done to save their virginity. I have heard of girls as low as eighth grade now practicing how to do "deep throat" with bananas with a rubber on it! And the main thing totally different now is the view people have about anal sex.

I am not saying no girls were like that many years ago, but it was rare and much different though! The naughtiest story I ever heard of a young girl in one neighborhood in a larger town close to me in the late fifties went like this... She started doing it in the summer after fourth grade. Her older brother had a tree house and went to college that summer. She found a "French" magazine while raiding his room, it had very graphic pictures in it showing the girl's opening before and after sex! It also had a series of pictures of a girl using a vibrator, and showed the changes it made after she come... This girl knew where her mom had hidden one of those and found it, they plugged into a 110 outlet in those days! She used it and had a climax after some experimenting, and she was off! 

After this she took several of the boys in the neighborhood up into the tree house on Saturday afternoon, one at a time! She would let them look at the pictures until they were hard and then tuck them inside of her and show them what to do... After they got tired of doing it she would let down the rope. They would climb down and the next boy would climb up and take a turn. After a few months the word was out and the tree house area became a local hang-out for many boys every Saturday she was there. The mother never caught on, even serving lemonade at times... she was glad her little girl was not lonely now that she was an only child! I climbed the rope once while visiting the area, but would not take off my pants when I saw the pictures and had to go down right away... I was only the second in line that afternoon and I do not think she was "satisfied" even once yet, and was still in a hurry! My older friend lived close by and took part in this for two summers. He said once he came into her, much to his surprise... He said it was like an explosion, and was both good and bad... Good that it happened, but bad that every time afterwards, when she let the rope down, and he came close to it, she pulled the rope back up!

This same guy said he had found out girls could come at a very early age. He said he used a vibrator on a girl he was baby setting for that was very young and made her come right away. He said after the first time she wanted him to baby-sit for her all the time but he quit doing it because he thought she would become addicted to it and they would get caught! I found out who she was at the time, and ask about her after she grew up, it did not affect her though, she even went to college before getting married! I heard different outcomes were normally the case, at the time I thought it had to do with growing up in the city... or too much idle time and a lack of adult supervision.

At this time in my life I thought this "coming" business had something to do with going crazy, and was very rare and very damaging to the person it affected! But you must understand, I did not know very many people with this "sickness" and the ones I did know acted very crazy at any time this was going on. I stayed away from them until they were "all better," or at least settled down again! I do remember "standing guard" while my cousin made noises a few times, and relaying the "your turn" to another cousin while they satisfied the "local slut" several afternoons that I stayed over in town when I was young... but nothing was ever explained to me about it, only that it was a very big secret! (And it had to do with the "F" word, another term I did not understand).

Only once did I actually see it happening, in a closet of the old school house, before it was torn down. Johnny was doing her from behind, as she was bent over humping her arm. He had her panties on his face with his pants down a little and she had her dress up. He had a hold of her breast under her sweater... they were only in sixth grade. Although I was going into seventh grade, and older than both of them, I did not know what was going on. I only came to tell them someone was walking by, and to be quiet... I thought it was just a game the town kids did to have fun with each other. She later asked me if I wanted to play the game once when we climbed the water tower together but I declined. I was afraid she would go crazy and fall off the tower or something... she said I was the one that was crazy!

When I was in my second year of high school I went out for sports and word got around from the locker room shower about my size. A girl known for having sex with any date caught me in the Sadie Hawkins race before the dance on homecoming night. We went out and parked during the dance and I talked to her about her loose morals and made her cry... She wanted to make love instead but I had a steady girlfriend from another school at the time and wanted to stay true to her. The girl agreed she needed to change her ways and did after that... I became famous for ruining a good thing the wilder boys had going, but she moved away later and all was forgotten.

I also had a very close friend that trusted me enough to talk about sex for many of my high school years, she even brought a friend along that was active in sex to discuss it several times. These girls, as well as any others that discussed it with me then, came to the conclusion that mostly girls just did it out of love for the guys and guys did it because they just had to continue sex with every girlfriend, once they got it from the first one!

I did take a "slut" to her prom dance my third year, as a favor to my best friend. But did not touch her. This made her very uneasy but she got over it... I was warned about her ahead of time and did nothing to encourage her. She was used often by "fast guys" she called them, and thought I was being stupid about it. Karen said she had never had to help get a guy going, but was willing to try if I talked her through it but I declined. It was very awkward and frustrating for both of us at the time but she did not get that emotional, she just ask me not to kiss her anymore that evening!

When I finally did start my sex life I was in college and far behind all my friends. In fact my best friend was over twenty and had just returned from Vietnam. He was a joker and told me things to do that were meant as a joke just to trick me into doing it. One of the cruelest things was what to use as a lubricant to make things go easier. He said to use "brushless" shaving cream, which I found out later had something in it to take away all feeling... It took me longer and the girl felt nothing on the outside, very little inside! After I found out what I was doing wrong it was too late, she was already pregnant and had run away. After that I decided to find out all I could about pleasing women, although that was not as easy as you think Very little was readily available on this subject at that time.

Another thing that always made it difficult too, when you were making love with a girl... they would almost never want to discuss it, before or after. Only the girls that did not have sex with you, and you did not want that relationship with them, only then were they likely to discuss it with you openly and honestly! It was not until I was married, and no longer available to actually experiment, did I find out more about the true feelings behind all the "games" played by most, regardless of their age or experience.

There was one exception to this with a girl I had wild drunken sex with one time... We became closer after that and I learned a great deal from her, even though we had "accidentally" done it once while totally out of our minds! We never let it happen again, and both still had respect for each other afterwards, I am not sure why. Maybe it was the relationship we already had with each other, or what we had gone through together by then, I don't really know. She died before I was able to discuss that part of my relationship with her at great length, and I always wished I had!

We met in a strange way, while she was drunk and laying on the floor outside her apartment door... wearing only her underpants! I had gone to visit a friend I went to college with and knew his wife had fixed a nice dinner for us. I had listened before as they described this couple that had moved in beside them. How the guy was a spoiled rich kid, and had "knocked up" a cheerleader at the local high school. They now had a baby and fought all the time, keeping them up some nights... They had even issued a tenant complaint on them already. When I later saw her she was on the floor crying softly. I helped her up, holding her for a minute, then knocked on her door. To my surprise the guy that answered was the son of my boss at the bakery. He let her in and told me he would explain at work, I became close friends with him after that. The following year I became the go-between a number of times when they fought, often watching the little girl until they settled things. He was the wildest drunk I was ever around in my life, once tearing up the back seat of my car before I could settle him down. Another time the girl stopped the car in the middle of a major intersection in the big city during a heavy down-pour rainstorm. Both of them were outside the car fighting over the child when I drove up, actually having a tug-of-war with the baby! I took the girl from them and got her to move the car into the station to continue the argument. Thinking back on it, I am not sure how they got away with that one... They remained married for over ten more years in fact, without anyone getting hurt! The sex happened when I was about to leave for the Army, they wanted to host my last big "goin' to the 'Nam" party. (The house they rented had been sold to the Kentucky Fried Chicken people and was to be torn down the following month, we decided to "trash" it with a big bash... and as it happened, we did.)

Using his connections I bought $730 worth of wholesale booze in 1971 money... I was about to die and would not need it anymore, it was most of my savings in fact! We planned a three day party starting Thursday night... He ask me to invite a girl I hardly knew for the first night, I later found out it was actually one his old girlfriends from high school, she accepted!

Very few people came the first night and by about two in the morning only the four of us were left at the house, we decided to play strip poker. I do not remember some of this, we had been drinking for over twelve hours by this time without eating anything. I do remember most of us were down to our underwear on one hand when my girlfriend lost... He wanted Pat to take off her panties instead of her bra and that made his wife angry, but she did it anyway, which ended the game with a bit of name calling! We all got dressed and he said he was going out for pizza, asking for the keys to my Bonneville, I declined and went with his wife to look in the kitchen for something for all of us to eat. There was a bit more name calling between the two girls before he found the keys to their little Mustang! The other girl had already left while Jean and were making sandwiches. He still wanted some pizza! And after called her a few more hurtful names he left... Jean and I ate our food and all went well until she looked out the window to see the Mustang bouncing up and down in the driveway. Nothing was said as we watched it for a minute, then she took me by both hands, backing up all the way into the bedroom. Jeannie was about 5' 7" 34-26-38, maybe 150, and now with a bit bigger butt, maybe a little pouch in the front, but still a beautiful cheerleader in my eyes and all others. I must admit I had wanted her since that moment I stood holding her upright and stable in that hallway years before, but not while she was still married, and especially not to one of my best friends! I do not know why I did it, maybe it was because she needed it so badly right then, maybe it was the booze. It could have been what I was thinking, as I wondered how in the world they were doing that much bouncing in such a small car. But it was the wildest sex I ever had, and a number of "firsts" for me all in a hurry... the first time a girl had gone down on me, the first time a girl had drawn my face down into her muff. Also the first time with a married woman or someone that had already had a baby... In fact, I think I did not finish because of all that "unusual behavior" and strange thoughts. The entire act happened very quickly, maybe only a few minutes. The blow job was only a quick demonstration while I was fumbling to open my pants. Maybe also to make it wet so my dick would not hurt going in. Her pants and panties were both off all in one as she sat down to reached out for this dick maybe twice the size of his. She did not swallow on the first bite, but she tried. (All this lasted only a few seconds before she laid back and guided him home... only then removing her top as we built momentum and synchronized each stroke better than the last). By this time we were correctly placed for her to grab the headboard rods and control her frame for the best angle of that ridge at the head of my dick (for correct movement against her "G" spot area I was later told). I do remember her saying yes several times and also "right there" just before we did at least a full minute of "rabbit pounding" without changing the position. (I was too drunk for this and the world was starting to spin due to breathing so fast... when all of a sudden she stopped breathing entirely! Then she guided me by my ears right into her opening and tilted it up more than I thought was possible... I almost drowned). Although I did not have a clue what to do I remained where I was placed and sucked on everything available until she started breathing again. I slowly worked my way to her breast and spent a little time on each before she got hold of me to put it back in. The rest of the action was more like I was accustom to with all other women I had before. As soon as she came I got up and dressed, leaving her on the bed, crying softly. The car was gone, a bit later I went back in and told her. She got up and got dressed right away. We both started drinking again and sat on the couch... waiting until we passed out. In the morning he was back and she was in the bedroom sleeping, nothing was said and we drank for two more days before I got on that airplane for boot camp. We all remained friends, even after their divorce... The little girl grew up to be as pretty as her mother had been, Jeannie gained over 100 lbs. and died of a heart attack while working at the age of 42. She told me once that I should not feel so bad about what had happened, saying I did not commit adultery, she did, and that she had made me do it. She even said she was crying because it felt so good, yet it was so bad, what she had done and all... She said it was the only time she ever cheated on him, although he had done it all time! She said she wished she could take it back and so did I, in fact, I still do to this day. I feel no matter the circumstances, I was to blame for allowing such a thing to happened and I will have to pay for it no matter how sorry I am! I do not think major sins concerning death or sex are ever forgiven on earth, it takes a higher power to be involved first...

Now it could be argued that this was not truly an "Unforgivable Mortal Sin" as it happened. (There was no planning, it was not premeditated. It was more of a reaction in anger than an action of lust). But it was actually a sin of adultery on my part as well as hers. We may receive some forgiveness for never allowing it to happen again. We all lived through those wild times of sinful wickedness and became better people because of it. And I never played strip poker again either!

The main thing I may have learned from this encounter was that sex was much more serious when it is involving a marriage contract. You are not involving just the two people having sex, you are hurting another, and that makes it more serious. This should be thought of the same even if they are not married, but are in a sexual relationship with another.

The way I understand the ruling I think it goes something like this: 

Once you become one with a woman (the moment you have penetrate her) you are now married! If things don't fit right down there, or you are unable to solve other differences between each other you may both decide not to ever join your bodies together again... This should be agreed by both parties before you join with another, not even for any reason, such as being apart! I figured this out from thinking back, on a mountain top in Korea... It had been indirectly taught to me before this by a number of smart thinking girls in my past, I had just not thought it out very well. I have heard this over and over for the rest of my life by every girl that has spoke on this subject since. All relationships should be like this according to the girl's point of view. Most men think differently about it... they go as far as they can, with any woman they can, every time they can... "Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead" is the though. Get all you can get, from whoever you can, whenever you can get it, you may not be alive tomorrow! 

I remember thinking that way too, and I should not blame the mini skirts or the war in Vietnam either. But it was a very strange time for this country then, hippies and drugs were everywhere, those returning from the war had a strange attitude as well. Too bad for mankind in fact... actually it was too bad for the women of any kind. It was just a good thing AIDS was not around yet, I would have got it! And it was kind of a good thing the first girl I slept with got pregnant and found a husband for this child, otherwise I would have many more running around! Actually, there is maybe one more besides the mountain cabin girl... and another lesson as well!

This happened while I was in Georgia, going to my last school before shipping out to Vietnam. There was a girl in my unit that was lonely and I spent many hours with her talking about love and stuff. Her husband was also in the military, but stationed on the west coast at the time. We went to parties together as if she was my date, mostly to protect her from getting hit on. She trusted me and I never tried anything, I was only interested in her because she was so open about talking of sex, being married she knew a great deal about it too! She would also question me about problems she was having with her husband and then discuss it with him over the phone. I never met him but seemed I knew him well, he though like I did on many things about life in general and was about as stupid in the sex department as I was! We even joked about it once, finally it was time for her two weeks of leave and she flew to be with him, hoping to get pregnant. (At that time in the military, if the girl was going to have a baby the couple got to be stationed together from that time on, and the girl was allowed to get out if she wanted). The planned pregnancy did not happened, partly I fear because of me... They fought about things he did wrong. When she came back she was sorry they fought so much, so was he when she started her period shortly afterwards. They did not have another leave for a year and he was afraid he would be sent on to Vietnam as well. (Military rules at the time prevented such a thing... but only if they had this child). We talked about it and I felt bad too, the following week they had a solution. I was asked to help get her pregnant right away, I foolishly agreed. 

It was strange love making, starting a few days later, not really love making, more like breeding... As soon as I come she would place her legs in the air against the wall and stay there for a long time, then we would do it again in a few hours. Even during the day we would sneak off every break and do it real fast. The closer it got to the main day the more intense it got. On her ovulation day her temperature did go up inside there and she wore me out for 24 hours straight! Two weeks later she "spotted" some and said I had failed her, we had a fight about it and I "buried my nose in the books" to avoid her. I finished school early then, even got top graduate... she did not come to my graduation and I left without seeing her again. Ely was her name, I regret I don't even remember her last name. And I also did not know it was common for a girl to spot the first month after getting pregnant, as well as after strenuous sex.

I do not know why I never felt guilty about doing this to a married woman. Mostly because I tried not to do it and was convinced by her that it may save her husband, as well as their marriage if I did it. Also she had no other guy she was close enough to, or was enough like her husband, and she had very little time, I was going to war soon. If she did conceive, it happened the last week of May in 1971. She was another one of those skinny girls that did not enjoy sex and I enjoyed it very little either, that somehow made it alright at the time. We only used water to make me slippery, I never played with her or tried to turn her on in any way, she did not think that was necessary and did not want to change our friendship. I did not argue with her, was only doing this to help them out, it is possible that is why she did not get pregnant if she didn't... (Normally her juices should have been flowing to make the fish swim well.) She maybe did not get very turned on by all of that friction after the first few times, I was sore as well. This was a lesson for both of us in fact, and I feel sorry for anyone ever trying such a thing, it took the fun out of sex for a while for me I know, I think for her too!

While on leave my orders changed from Vietnam to Korea (actually I had two sets of orders) and did not know for sure where I was going next, or what I was doing for sure... I remember my thinking then, a time when men died for no reason, but the goal was to die honorable!

Although much time has passed, many young men still go to war and die for stupid reasons, nothing has really changed... (The best solution is to please your women, make more babies... and try not to repeat your sins after you commit them)!    

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The next set of pictures could be offensive to some people, although the girls portrayed are over 18, they are much too under developed, at least some are made to appear that way. (Others are just "late bloomers" or of the race that will never "bloom").

It is not our intent to promote any lust for such women, only an attempt to show a small example of what many say are the most "sought-after" shots by some people, perverted men in our minds... For sure these people do not have well balanced minds, if they are in America! (Well over half of all adult women in America have very open and "blossomed" flowers, yet far less than one fourth of them are shown in any open forum, magazine, or in any way placed on display). It is our goal to correct that if we can. Not by placing more of them on display, (that is a problem on the Internet already, we cannot solve it, we can only educate people). When the demand for such a thing does subside, and those making money off of such things began to lose money, rather than gain, they will stop! Then we will stop! Until then we must educate. Part of real education is telling both sides of any issue and letting intelligence prevail. The next two drawings and four pictures deal with the immoral side of a growing problem in the world. (The wicked lust for the young and innocent looking girls of the world... mostly of the smaller races, who appear much younger than they are).

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